Minutes of Meeting - April 3, 2009

Minutes of the April 3, 2009 meeting of the Sioux Falls Seniors Computer Club:

Vice President Bill Goebel called the meeting to order in room 204 in the absence of President Norm Knox, who was unable to be present. Bill announced a change in the planned program and offered to see members in need of assistance after the meeting. On a motion by Nellie Reeves, the club voted to accept the minutes of the March meeting as submitted by the secretary in e-mail.

Visitor Phyllis Knutson of the Sioux Valley Genealogical Society spoke to the club about the Genealogy Interest Group (GIG), which is new at the Center. This group will meet in the computer classroom at 10:00 a.m. on the second Friday of every month. Membership in the Center for Active Generations is not required of those who attend, but Center members pay $1 per meeting, while others pay $2.For further information, call 528-6375. Ms. Knutson also announced the expected presence in Sioux Falls of Rick Crume, contributing editor for Family Tree Magazine and a published author on genealogical subjects. Mr. Crume will be in Sioux Falls on April 17 and 18. For further information, call 275-4197 or visit http://siouxlandlib.org/adults/genealogy.aspx and http://siouxfallsevents.com/eventDetails.CFM?EventID=9225

Bill answered a couple of questions sent to him in e-mail. The first question was about how to uninstall Internet Explorer 8. System Restore can do this. The second question concerned a printer problem. Steps that may help a printer problem are as follows. Run the error checking program Check Disk (right-click the C: drive in My Computer, click on Properties, click on Tools, and click on Error-checking). Uninstall the printer and reinstall it. Use System Restore. Use a Web searcher such as Google to find help. Find and remove temporary files (files with the name pattern *.TMP).

The main part of the April meeting was a survey conducted by Justin Smorawske, Eric Sivertsen, and Kevin Kennedy of Epic Multimedia on behalf of the Good Samaritan Society. Members who chose to participate in the survey received a $5 gift card to use at a local business. Everybody opted in. The first part of the survey asked us general questions about our computer familiarity, Internet usage, and such. The second part was about our interest in long-term care and how we may choose this care. The third part asked for our reactions to the Web site of the the Good Samaritan Society with particular attention directed to the homepage of the Society and its page showing services in Sioux Falls.The survey was conducted in room 204, and the Web pages were projected onto a portable screen. This gave us more room to sit and write than we would have had in the computer classroom. The wireless service of the Center's router does not go as far as room 204, but a cable connection is available there that our visitors used. Members who were present signed a get-well card for the President. The club welcomes new members Eleanor Sturdevant and Carol Moon.

Respectfully submitted by Garth Peterson, Secretary

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Added note: On most PCs System Restore sets up restore points automatically at regular intervals. However, it is advisable to take an extra restore point manually ahead of any major system change. This provides a convenient place to roll back to when necessary. If a rollback is needed that goes back to an automatic restore point that is several days old, there is the problem of saving recent user data prior to the rollback. User data that is newer than the latest restore point should be downloaded into files from whatever software has it stored, and these files should be copied out to a backup medium before the rollback. The best backup medium is probably a recordable compact disk (CD-R).

Minutes of Meeting - March 6, 2009

Minutes of the March 6, 2009 meeting of the Sioux Falls Seniors Computer Club:

Prior to the meeting, printed copies of the list of member names and e-mail addresses were available.

President Norm Knox called the meeting to order in room 204. The club discussed the question of how often the list of member names and e-mail addresses should be printed and handed out. On a motion by Bob Black, the club voted to have this list distributed every six months.The secretary will forward e-mail messages as needed to new members whose names and e-mail addresses are not on the most recent printed list.

Norm Knox mentioned SeniorNet facilities that are available to club members when they travel to other places. SeniorNet also has a Website that offers courses on a variety of topics besides just computer topics. These SeniorNet opportunities that go beyond SeniorNet courses in Sioux Falls do cost additional dollars. Norm reminded the members that letting the Center's office know about their interest in particular topics for computer classes can be helpful in getting their desired courses scheduled.

Due to a misunderstanding by the secretary, the name of Marvalyn Rollag was omitted from the printed list of members. She had wanted her name on the list, but without the e-mail address beside it. Members were given the opportunity to write in her name on their printed copies. The secretary apologized for two problems. The printed list came from the spreadsheet software, which prints small and has no option to increase the print size. The Yahoo e-mail account used for sending out the minutes has an invalid reply address which creates a problem for members who try to reply to a question that comes from that e-mail account.

Our speaker at this meeting was Charlotte Jaeschke. Ms. Jaeschke is Tax-Aide Coordinator for Sioux Falls for IRS and AARP. Tax-Aide is an all-volunteer group of tax-preparers, reviewers, facilitators, and the coordinator herself, who assist taxpayers of all ages who need help with their tax returns. Tax-Aide is jointly sponsored by AARP and the Internal Revenue Service. The volunteers use tax preparation software that runs on the preparers' PCs and Tax-Aide's highly reliable server. The IRS supplies this software. When taxpayer data is saved on the server, it is in encrypted form. The server has two hard drives that are mirrors of each other, and data is regularly copied and saved off-site on flash drives. During the off-season, all tax data is removed from the server and saved elsewhere and the server is put away in storage. With a taxpayer's permission, summary data from a return can be carried over from previous years to assist in the preparation of a new return. Taxpayers who use Tax-Aide for the first time should bring in their old tax returns. Taxpayers can also bring in their returns for the current year that they themselves have prepared. The assistance that Tax-Aide can provide has some limitations. Volunteers at Tax-Aide cannot go to court on behalf of taxpayers. High income level, inventory, or depreciation will take a taxpayer's return outside the scope of what the volunteers are trained for. On the other hand, Tax-Aide can help taxpayers who have received incorrect W-2 forms. All tax returns are reviewed, and two reviewers go over the work of four preparers. All volunteers must agree to respect the privacy of taxpayers. Tax returns are filed electronically (e-filing). After a return is prepared and is on the server, it has to go through a three-stage process. In the first stage, returns are submitted tentatively to the IRS. In the second stage, the IRS checks what has been submitted. The third stage consists of the actual electronic filing of the returns that the IRS has approved. People who want to do their own tax returns with computer assistance can use personal tax software, or they can go to tax-preparation Webpages at the IRS's Web site (irs.gov).

The club welcomes new member Linda Barnett.

Respectfully submitted by Garth Peterson, Secretary

Minutes of Meeting - January 2, 2009

Minutes of the January 2, 2008 meeting of the Sioux Falls Seniors Computer Club:

President Norm Knox called the meeting to order in room 204. The minutes of the December business meeting were read and approved. Under the heading of old business, the club took up the matter of distribution of the membership list. The President brought the following resolution to the meeting as a proposed change to the Rules and Procedures of the club.

Resolved: A current membership list containing names, phone numbers, and e-mail addresses shall be maintained by the club Secretary. A printed copy of this list will be provided by the club Secretary to any current member upon their request for such list. The membership list will not be posted on the internet by any club member.

After extensive discussion, the matter was tabled for further discussion later.

Our speaker for January 2 was Asella Crum and her topic was Introduction to Genealogy. The club moved to the computer classroomfor her talk. Our speaker began studying genealogy in 1958, after her first child was born. She wanted her children to know their family history. Asella polled the club members on their use of genealogical software. About half of those present have such software. Most use Family Tree Maker, which Asella herself has used for a number of years. Some club members do use other genealogical software, however. Taking a class in genealogy helps people with an interest in genealogy to get started right. Classes here in genealogy are based on Family Tree Maker, using manuals from SeniorNet. Family Tree Maker may be available for a discounted amount. It pays to shop for the best price. Moving data from one kind of genealogical software to another kind is a problem that can be handled by saving data in a GED file. This is a file format with the extension GED.Besides discussing genealogy, Asella pointed out that members of the Center who are interested in particular topics for computer classes should tell the front desk what classes they would like to take and when they can take them.The LDS Family History Center has a yearly seminar in October. The LDS Family History Center and the Courthouse Genealogical Library are both worthwhile places to visit. DNA testing can show relationships by identifying common male and female lines. However, it does cost money. $175 was mentioned as a possible amount.

Respectfully submitted by Garth Peterson, Secretary.

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The current rules and procedures of the club are shown below. They also appear in the attached file Rules.doc, which is better for making a printed copy.

Rules and Procedures of the Sioux Falls Seniors Computer Club

1. The name of the organization is the Sioux Falls Seniors Computer Club.

2. The purpose is to create a self-help group to expand the individual's computer knowledge.

3. An adult person shall become eligible for membership in the Club upon (a) completion of the Club's application form and (b) having attended and completed one SeniorNet computer class.

4. A regular meeting of the Club shall be held on the first Friday of each month unless the Club President orders otherwise in advance. Meetings start at 10:00 a.m.

5. The regular monthly meeting in May shall be shall known as the Annual Meeting and shall be for the purpose of electing officers and conducting other business that may arise.

6. A special meeting or workshop may be held upon the call of the President.

7. The officers of the club shall be the President, Vice President and Secretary.

8. The President shall be responsible for the overall activities ofthe Club, shall preside over all meetings and shall appoint standing committees necessary to accomplish the purposes and objectives of the Club.

9. The Vice President, in the absence of the President, shall preside over the meetings and shall carry out all such duties as the President may assign.

10. The Secretary shall have the responsibility of keeping the minutes, sending notices of meetings, and other duties generally pertaining to the office.

11. Individual members are encouraged to attend the monthly meetings and participate in discussion related to the computer-based questions of interest.

12. Members are encouraged to submit computer-related questions prior to the monthly meeting to a designated Computer Club member so they may be addressed at that meeting.

13. The Secretary shall see to the timely submittal of information about the next monthly meeting topic or agenda to the Center for Active Generations' person responsible for the CFAG monthly newsletter.

14. A club member designated by the President shall maintain a list of e-mail addresses for sending announcements to Computer Club members. Any member may ask to opt out of this list if they so choose.

Minutes of Meeting - December 5, 2008

Minutes of the December 5, 2008 meeting of the Sioux Falls Seniors Computer Club:

In the absence of President Norm Knox, Vice President Bill Goebel called the meeting to order in room 204. The minutes of the November business meeting were read and approved. On a motion from Ray Vaughn, the club voted that names and addresses and phone numbers of club members should not appear in the club's blog. This motion passed without dissent. On a second motion from Ray Vaughn, the club voted on whether to exclude members' names, addresses, and phone numbers from the information distributed to members. The motion to exclude received 9 yes votes and 10 no votes. Mildred Hottman Roesch moved that this matter be discussed further at the January meeting. This motion passed without dissent.

Bill thanked Glenn Johnson for his work in creating and maintaining the club's blog. (Added note: This blog is located at http://sfscc2007.blogspot.com/ .)

In the computer classroom Bill asked the members to state what kinds of things they are doing with their computers. An alphabetized list of these uses appears below.

Access
Adobe
Backups to flash drives or CDs
Banking online to watch account, pay bills, and reconcile
Blogs
Books downloaded to an Ipod at Siouxland Libraries
Camera's pictures stored
Card-making
Creative writing
Data bases for church and high school
Drawing
Games
Geneological Web sites
Health records
Heritage Quest access via library card
Labels
Letters
Library access
Microsoft Word
My Yahoo
Newspaper: Argus Leader
Newspapers in inbox (various newspapers)
Picasa for organizing pictures
Printing on freezer paper for transfer to fabric
Publisher
Quicken
Recipes
Repair information for old radios
Rubik's Cube help
Servlists
Sewing machine control from laptop computer
SiouxFalls.org as a place to join
Turbo Tax
Video viewing

Other matters disussed in the classroom included the following. Webpage's addresses may be sent as shortcuts to the desktop. These shortcuts may need to be renamed. Yahoo Briefcase provides backup storage for individual files. A picture in Adobe can be copied elsewhere by means of the Save As function. Possibilities for future speakers and topics might be Turbo Tax, genealogy, or a speaker from the city library.

The club welcomes new member JoAnn Garner.

Respectfully submitted by Garth Peterson, Secretary.

Minutes - October 3, 2008

Minutes of the October 3, 2008 meeting of the Sioux Falls Seniors Computer Club:

President Norm Knox called the meeting to order in room 204. The minutes of the September business meeting were read and approved. There was no old business. There was also no new business. During the classroom part of the meeting, Linda Bauer proposed "Organizing Files and Folders" as the topic for the November meeting. The club accepted this suggestion.

In the computer classroom, Vice President Bill Goebel described and demonstrated Photo Story 3, a free application program for processing and displaying digital photographs. Google can find various copies of this program for downloading, but it is best to download the copy that comes from Microsoft.com. The customary first step after starting Photo Story 3 is to import images. These images usually come from the My Pictures folder in My Documents. The user can key control-A to highlight and import all images at once, or individual images can be highlighted and imported separately. Photo Story 3 provides a thumbnail display of all imported images in the lower part of its window. These images can be rearranged by using the mouse to drag and drop them. Unwanted images can be deleted without affecting the originals in the folder they come from. The second step in processing the images is the collective removal of black borders. However, the user may want to skip over this step. Dealing with black borders when the pictures are edited individually may give better results. The third step begins the individual editing of images. Each image can be cropped as needed. Photo Story 3 has some of the same editing options as PhotoShop, but PhotoShop can do many things that Photo Story 3 cannot. On the other hand, Photo Story 3 can zoom in or zoom out or sweep within a picture to create movement that suggests the operation of a video camera even though the picture is really a still photo. Bill considers this to be one of the best features of the program. Titles can be added to images during editing. If the PC has a microphone, voice comments can be supplied for pictures. The duration of the display of each picture can be an automatic value, or a particular time in seconds can be specified. Many kinds of transitions between pictures are available. The program has a selection of different kinds of background music that can be added. It is desirable to save the work being done frequently during editing. When the current project is saved, it goes into a file with extension WP3. The customary folder for storing this file is My Videos in My Documents. This is also the usual folder for storing the end result. When the project is complete, it should be saved as actual video in a WMV file. The program has to go through several steps to make this file. When the WMV file is completed, it can be viewed with Windows Media Player, or it may be an input to Windows Movie Maker. If there is a possibility that further editing may be needed, theWP3 file should be saved together with the WMV file. If a PC user runs Photo Story 3 on very many digital images, the resulting output files can take up a lot of hard drive space. Moving the files to CDs or DVDs will solve this problem. When Photo Story 3 is in use, it needs a recent version of Windows Media Player on hand to show the results of editing individual pictures. This happens while Photo Story 3 itself is running. Either Version 10 or Version 11 of Windows Media Player will support Photo Story 3 properly, but an earlier version may not work right.

Respectfully submitted by Garth Peterson, Secretary.

Minutes - September 5, 2008

Minutes of the September 5, 2008 meeting of the Sioux Falls Seniors Computer Club:

In the absence of President Norm Knox, Vice President Bill Goebel called the meeting to order in room 204.The minutes of the August meeting were read and approved. Bill mentioned that Moviemaker and Photostory can be used to assemble pictures to use in family histories. New members and old members introduced themselves around room 204.

In answer to a question about Open Office from Ray Vaughn, Bill recommended that material from Open Office be saved as files in DOC format to get around problems of incompatibility. Some club members might be interested in setting up personal Websites. At present the Center has no course for this. Jeanette Stadtfeld mentioned a need to be able to set up a password for a PC. According to Bill, if a PC is given a password in preparation for the visit of a grandchild, the password should not be the name of the family dog.

The secretary mentioned that recent minutes are available in the club's blog, which is maintained by Glenn Johnson. The blog is at http://sfscc2007.blogspot.com/ or http://www.sfscc2007.blogspot.com/ .

In the computer classroom, Bill Goebel led a discussion of several computer topics. Some computer problems can be resolved by using the System Restore facility of Windows XP. Information about this can be found by searching for the words "System Restore" at Microsoft's Help and Support Center (http://support.microsoft.center/). Bill described how multiple user accounts with passwords can be setup on a PC. Look for User Accounts in the Control Panel to set these up. A new account starts with access to basic Windows XP. Permissions to use other things on the computer can then be added.

Windows Defender from Microsoft protects well against spyware. It is a free add-on for Windows XP and is included in Windows Vista. A computer can have multiple anti-spyware programs, but some of these programs tie up memory. Keeping Windows Defender alone for spyware protection is a good policy. AVG Free is a good antivirus program to go with Windows Defender but finding it to download from the AVG Web site (http://www.grisoft.com/) requires looking carefully for "AVG Free". The version of AVG with a price is naturally much easier to find.

Bill demonstrated functions of MovieMaker. Movies that it makes can be saved to a CD or DVD. A DVD has the advantage of more room. Photos can be organized with Photostory and then brought into MovieMaker. A Google search at Wikipedia showed the difference between a podcast and a webcast. Setting up a free account at Yahoo gives access to video feeds and other things like articles and Yahoo's webmail. Open Office is an office and productivity suite. It is a free alternative to Microsoft Office, and can be downloaded from http://www.openoffice.org/ .

Bob Black teaches the Center's course on Powerpoint 2003. This should be similar to any Powerpoint that someone has at home.When downloading a program from the Internet, it is better to choose the Save option than the Run option. The program that is downloaded this way can then be run as a program to install the actual working program. When the installation process is complete, the new program will be listed under Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel. An install program can be downloaded temporarily to the desktop if that is convenient, but it should not be left in that location permanently because it ties up memory there. It is a good idea to save install programs in a special folder with some name such as Download. Then they will be available later if something needs to be uninstalled and reinstalled.A heavy spam load on an e-mail address may make it necessary to setup a new e-mail address. Getting the address book associated with the old e-mail address to work with the new e-mail address is likely to be the hardest part of setting up the new address. The Web site for the Center for Active Generations is at http://www.cfag.org/ and is maintained by Bev Johnson. In Internet Explorer Version 7, the bar at the top of the window that has buttons marked File, Edit, View, and so on may not always be visible. Pressing the Alt key will bring it out of hiding. (This part of the window is called the menu bar. You can keep it permanently visible or not by clicking on View, Toolbars, and MenuBar.)

The club welcomes new members Cheri L. Lehmann and Hoi Tran.

Respectfully submitted by Garth Peterson, Secretary.

Minutes - August 1, 2008

Minutes of the August 1, 2008 meeting of the Sioux Falls Seniors Computer Club:

President Norm Knox called the meeting to order in room 204. The minutes of the July meeting were read and approved. Nellie Reeves informed the club that the ECHO symposium will run from 8:30 to 3:00 on September 30. This symposium will include break-out sessions from 11:00 to 12:00. For attendees with computer interests, there will be a break-out entitled, "Preserving Family History Digital Style," which will be led by Alice Lance and Asella Crum. Norm asked club members to tell their friends about computer classes at the Center. He reported that there were a few class enrollments arising from the Computer Learning Center Open House that was held on July 29. Norm also reported that customers of Midco (midco.net) have been receiving bogus e-mails asking for information about their accounts with Midco.

In the computer classroom, Vice President Bill Goebel described three World Wide Web sites that provide free off-site data backup for computer users. Yahoo Briefcase (briefcase.yahoo.com) is available to anyone who has a Yahoo e-mail account. Anyone can setup a Yahoo e-mail account as a way to use Yahoo Briefcase without bothering to use the account for e-mail. However, setting up the account will include reading an image with distorted letters and keying the letters into a box in a form. Sometimes the letters are too distorted to read, but one can get a new image and try again with different letters. Yahoo Briefcase is being superseded by a similar but newer free service at http://www.box.net/. HP's Snapfish (http://www.snapfish.com/) is a free data storage service that specializes in images. It lets the user save private copies of images or share them with others. Bill noted that computer users should choose carefully in deciding what to back up. For most computer users the thing that most needs to be protected is the address book. George Lair described his use of the Carbonite backup service. For $50 per year this service maintains a complete backup copy of his hard drive automatically. Nellie called attention to the weather service at Yahoo's home page. This weather service provides the local weather report, as well as the report for any other area in the country by means of its ZIP code. Bill warned that circulating e-mails may contain wrong information about politics and politicians. Claims in such e-mails can be checked at http://www.snopes.com/. This site has a search facility which can look for key words in an e-mail to show what http://www.snopes.com/ says about the e-mail's claims. The programs msconfig and msinfo32 can provide information about whether a computer has too many programs running or not enough memory. (To run msconfig or msinfo32, click on the Start button, click on Run, enter the program's name in the Run window, and finally press Enter or click on OK.) The important lines in msinfo32's display are marked Total Physical Memory and Available Physical Memory. To get more available memory, you can uninstall unneeded programs through the control panel, or buy more memory, which is usually not very expensive. Bev Johnson was briefly present and was naturally unable to escape without answering some questions. She recommends that anyone who installs Java on a PC should watch for and reject the option of installing a Google toolbar in Internet Explorer. She also recommends Windows Defender (free) as an anti-spyware program. Windows Defender contains Software Explorer, which can help to identify programs that can be removed. George observed that Adobe and Picasa are programs that can be unchecked so that they are loaded only when needed.

Respectfully submitted by Garth Peterson, Secretary.

Added notes about data storage: Snapfish is basically a free service, but it has fees for scanning photographs that are mailed in and for making hard copies of stored images. These fees are based on use and are not very high. Briefase and Box from Yahoo are similar services, but Box allows file sharing with its free service, while Briefase does not. Box allows more data storage with its free service. Both free services come with advertisements. Box indicates that its monthly paid services that allow more saved data leave out the ads.

Minutes - 11 July 2008

Minutes of the July 11, 2008 meeting of the Sioux Falls Seniors Computer Club:

President Norm Knox called the meeting to order in room 204, and expressed pleasure at the number of members attending. The minutes of the June meeting were read and approved with one revision: The coming ECHO Symposium at the Center will be held on September 30. Actions by the club in connection with the ECHO Symposium are presently pending. There was no old business. Under new business, Vice President Bill Goebel announced the topic of the next meeting will be "off-site Internet storage".

Following the business part of the meeting, the club members moved to the Sertoma B room. In Sertoma B, Garth Peterson ran a demonstration of wireless access from the club's notebook computer to the Center's wireless router. Sertoma B is close enough to the router for successful wireless access while the computer classroom and room 204 are not. Following this demonstration, the meeting continued in the same room. Club members discussed security concerns and various technical problems, led by Bill Goebel. Bill mentioned that while flash drives are very useful, they are not immune to failure. Also,the program msinfo32 which can be run from the run box available on the Start Menu, can give information about memory usage or overloading Windows.

Respectfully submitted by Garth Peterson, Secretary.

NOTES OF INTEREST

Computer Learning Center Open House Tuesday, July 29 from 5:30 - 7:30 pm. Bring a friend! Spread the news! The Center will host a Computer Learning Center Open House. This is an opportunity for current students to expand their knowledge and learn more about our new end-of-summer and fall class schedules. Current Computer Learning Center students who bring a friend to this open house will receive a $5 coupon for their next computer class. Free Seminars include: MS Office Programs 9 Excel, PowerPoint, Access, Publisher), New Computer Classes in Spanish, Photo Shop Elements, and Q & A. Computer instructors will be available to answer questions and help guide you on your learning process through the computer world. For more information, contact Lisa Howard at 333-3307.

Free Computer Seminar Wednesday, July 30th. The Sioux Falls Computer Learning Center has another free computer seminar scheduled for Wednesday, July 30th, at 12:00 noon. This is an opportunity to learn more about the VISTA operating system, Word(2003), Internet surfing and e-mail. Bring your questions for our very knowledgable instructors. Class schedules will be available for August through October. Seats are limited; call 336-6722.

Membership Listing: A listing of members as of July 11, 2008, can be seen by clicking "membership" in the Label section on your right.

The email that was sent out with the minutes had two attachments that showed the club's membership list in July. E-mail addresses are not included. The first attachment (DOC file) can be opened with Word, and the second (TXT file) can be opened with Notepad. The second attachment can be opened and then copied and pasted into a spreadsheet, or it can be opened and searched for a house number or phone number if necessary. Refer to those documents in your email if you so desire.

Minutes - 6 June 2008

Minutes
Center for Active Generations Computer Club

6 June 2008

The CFAG Computer Club met Friday, June 6, 2008 at
10:00 a.m. at the Center for Active Generations.

Norm Knox, President presided; Nellie Reeves read the
minutes of the May meeting. They were approved as
read. Garth Peterson was out of town, so Bob Black
filled in to record minutes.

Old Business:

President Knox reminded the members that the Computer
Club had a laptop computer that could be used by
members. It has a wireless card. Contact Norm Knox
if you desire to borrow it. Nellie Reeves suggested
that the club have a demonstration of its capabilities
at the next meeting since many of the members do not
have laptops.

The July meeting will be on July 11 instead of July 4,
due to the holiday (and the Center will be closed.)

New Business:

Nellie Reeves mentioned a meeting to occur on
September 23rd at the Center. It is the ECHO
Symposium. The primary topic will be "Preserving your
story." The Club members have an opportunity to
provide information to the symposium on the use of
computers in arranging photographs, preserving
stories, and filing information on CD and DVDs.

The meeting adjourned to the computer room for
questions and answers by Bill Goebel. Topics covered
included the importance of backups to your computer's
hard drive and flash drives. Bill provided a
demonstration of the use of a flash drive.

The meeting adjourned at 11:25.

Respectfully submitted

Robert E. Black

Minutes - 2 May 2008

Minutes of the May 2, 2008 meeting of the
Sioux Falls Seniors Computer Club:

President Norm Knox called the meeting to order in
room 204.

Nellie Reeves reported that software trouble in her
computer was fixed by Scott Cook, who does evening
(after 4 pm) and weekend work on computers for a $40
minimum when computers are brought to him. (His
address and phone number are 6005 W. 52nd Street and
361-6954.)

Nellie also brought name tags for the members to wear
during the meeting.

The rest of the business part of the meeting was
deferred until after a talk by Matt Woolridge from
Staples. Notes on his talk appear below.

After Matt's talk, the club proceeded to the annual
election of officers.

Bill Goebel was absent from this meeting, but was
provisionally re-elected as Vice President and
Advisor. (He has since agreed to serve again.)

Norm Knox agreed to be a candidate for President again
and was re-elected to that position.

Garth Peterson was re-elected as Secretary.

The club welcomed Ginny and Ralph Iverson as new
members.

Nellie will bring name tags again to the next meeting.

The minutes of the April meeting were read and
approved.

Respectfully submitted by Garth Peterson, Secretary.

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Matt Woolridge brought a handout to go with his talk.
A copy of this handout is attached to this e-mail
message. He also brought two wireless routers in
their boxes. They were small enough to let a person
carry both boxes under one arm.

Now that it is common for a household to have more
than one computer, while at the same time dial-up
Internet access is becoming uncommon, a router
provides a way for all computers in a household to
have Internet access. If the computers are not close
to one another, a wireless router makes long cables
unnecessary.

Wireless routers for home use vary from about $50 to
$100 in prices. A higher price gives more speed and
greater range. The greater range of a higher priced
router is usually more valuable than the faster speed
because even the lower priced router is likely to be
as fast as the fastest available home Internet
connection.

A household with a regular desktop computer and a
notebook computer can benefit from a wireless router.
The router goes between the desktop computer and the
modem that connects to whatever Internet access is
used. The notebook computer needs a wireless access
card, but newer notebook computers are likely to have
this built in. (According to later information from
Staples, it is even possible to have a local network
that is all wireless.)

A wireless router also has connectors that allow it to
act as wired router for computers and devices that are
close to it. A printer connected to the router
becomes available to all computers that have access to
the router. However, if you want, your printer can
have its own wireless access box to communicate with
the router.

Setting up a router at home means setting up a local
network, and this is likely to need technical
assistance. The Staples store has a department called
EasyTech that provides PC and network assistance for
home computer users. EasyTech includes on-site
assistance at home for setting up a network. The
current price for this is $70, but this is a temporary
special offer. Before long, the regular higher price
will be in effect.

It is best for a local wireless network to be set up
with the router and computers where they will actually
be used in order to be sure they all work in their
intended locations. This work is done by
subcontractors for EasyTech, but the work comes with
Staples' own thirty-day guarantee.

Because having a router creates a local network, it
not only allows different computers to share Internet
access or share a printer, it can also give the
different computers access to one another.

A home network should usually have a password. This
keeps different local networks that are close together
from interacting. If a local wireless network does
not have a password, someone close by with a notebook
computer may be able to exploit it for Internet
access, but will not still not be able to get into the
network's computers. An intruder with specialized
equipment that could access the computers in a
wireless network is not likely to be interested in
anyone's home network.

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Here is an update about wireless operation of the
club's notebook computer.

Todd has removed the password from the wireless router
at the Center for Active Generations. This allows the
notebook computer with its wireless adapter card to
access the Internet when it is close enough to the
router. The handiest place for club members to try
this out is in the computer lab. There is an open
spot to the right of the lab's computer #4 where our
computer can sit, and for juice there is a power strip
with some open outlets next to the wall. Other places
where wireless access works are the central area of
the lounge and room 128 (the conference room). My
first test in the conference room did not go well, but
two later tests gave satisfactory operation. In the
lounge the computer needs to be close to a wall in
order not to have an extension cord running across the
floor. A more convenient place for the club to see a
demonstration of wireless operation would be either
room 204 or the computer classroom (room 133), but
both of these rooms are too far away from the router
to pick up the signal.

Minutes - 4 April 2008

Minutes of the April 4, 2008 meeting of the
Sioux Falls Seniors Computer Club:

President Norm Knox called the meeting to order in
room 204. He announced that our scheduled speaker was
again unable to attend, this time because of problems
at work. The business portion of the March minutes
was read and approved.

Because the first Friday in July will be Independence
Day, the club voted to meet on the second Friday in
July, which is July 11.

The club voted for quarterly distribution of the
club's mailing list to the members. The mailing list
as sent will show member's names, street addresses,
and phone numbers, but not e-mail addresses. The list
will be in word processing format readable by
Microsoft Word.

The possibility of stick-on labels for members to wear
at meetings was discussed. A problem with this is
that some fabrics are too soft for these labels.

The next meeting is the date for the club's annual
election of officers. Norm announced that he is not a
candidate for re-election.

The minutes of the March meeting mention the donation
of a carrying case with handle and wheels, for the
club's notebook computer. The club thanks member
Linda Bauer for this carrying case.

Lois Rasmussen expressed appreciation for assistance
at the previous meeting with regard to trouble using a
mouse. Lois reported that a new mouse solved the
problem.

The club then adjourned to the computer classroom for
a session of questions, answers, and discussion led by
Vice President Bill Goebel.

Respectfully submitted by Garth Peterson, Secretary.

Minutes of Meeting - March 7, 2008

Minutes of the March 7, 2008 meeting of the Sioux Falls Seniors Computer Club:

President Norm Knox called the meeting to order in room 204. The minutes of the February meeting were approved, with a correction. One sentence needed to say: Vista needs a new version of MicrosoftWord, and does *not* accept a too old version of Office. Norm announced that our speaker had to cancel because of flu in his family. Matt Woolridge, Assistant Manager at Staples, will speak to the club instead in April. Under old business, Norm reported that Lisa Howard was using the club's laptop computer, but it would be available to the club again by Wednesday, March 12. The computer now has a donated carrying case with wheels and a handle. Norm read a message from Asella Crum about Family Tree Maker, the Genealogy Class for Computers, starting on March 13 at 9-11 a.m. for eight weeks. (The price is $45.)

The club members then moved to the computer classroom, where Bill Goebel conducted a question and answer session. Bill recommends against using Outlook Express to save e-mails for very long. E-mails that need to be saved should be copied and pasted into word processing files. Norm reported that the Web browser Netscape, once widely used, is now going off the market. Hazel Johnson is back after having "been through the mill" because of health problems. Hazel brought to the meeting a very interesting e-mail that she recently received that officially informed her that ATM card number such and such had been credited in her favor in the amount of $6.8 million. Unfortunately, Hazel is still waiting for the money. Norm reported the case of a neighbor who got a telephone call that led her to believe that she would receive a large sum of money, to be delivered in person. The neighbor then got a later call in which the caller said that the personal delivery had been delayed and asked the neighbor for her bank account number. Bill described software clean-up work that he recently did during a house call. A computer had a program that needed to be removed, but it would not go away. The uninstall operation for the program would not work, and the program's files located under "Program Files"could not be removed. Bill rebooted the computer in Safe Mode and tried to repeat these two methods of removal without any better success. The solution that worked was to use System Recovery to roll the computer back to a checkpoint taken at a time before the bad program was ever on the computer. This operation was performed in Safe Mode. Bill then did a disk cleanup and ran a registry cleaner that he carries with him on visits like this. His registry cleaner is PC OnPoint. (The troublesome program was a trial version of a different registry cleaner.) Bill recommends creating a system checkpoint before making any substantial change in a computer. For help and useful information about personal computers, visit http://www.komando.com/ or do a Google search for Kim Komando. Her site also provides downloads, including programs for security. When a Web site offers both a paid version and a free version of a useful program, finding the free version usually takes more looking at the site than finding the paid version.

The program msconfig controls what programs are allowed to run in background. Some programs listed by msconfig can be disabled but others should not be. A Google search on the name of a program listed by msconfig can often find out what a program does. Bill conducted a demonstration of using function key F8 during reboot to get to Safe Mode on the classroom's main computer.If a traditional mouse with a ball is sticky and unpredictable, it may work better after cleaning. However, if cleaning dust out of the inside of a mouse does not make it work better, it is probably time to get a replacement. The speed of a mouse when it reacts to double-clicking is determined by a setting that is reached through the Control Panel. Computers in the classroom are set for the slowest available speed of doubleclicking, but club members may prefer a faster speed on their own computers at home.

Helen Tieszen raised a question about how to have one's address book available when using webmail during travel. To do this, two steps are needed. First, the address book in Outlook Express must be exported to a text file, and second the text file must be imported into webmail. The procedure for importing depends on what kind of webmail is provided by one's Internet service provider.In Outlook Express, the procedure for exporting the address book is:Click on File, Export, Address Book, "Text File (Comma Separated Values)", and Export. Enter a filename for the address book in the box and click on Next. Under "Select the fields you wish to export"click on First Name and Last Name, and leave Name and E-mail Address checked. You may want to uncheck any checked squares below the E-mail Address for the sake of privacy. Then click on Finish and Close. The exported file will probably be in My Documents. Copy it or move it to the Desktop. If goes somewhere else, it may be necessary to search for it. Most Internet service providers have some kind of webmail software. However, not all webmail software can import address books. Midco and Yahoo both have webmail that can. For help with importing to Midco, contact Bill Goebel at goebel33@sio.midco.net. To import to Yahoo, direct your browser to http://www.yahoo.com/ and sign in. Then click on Mail, Contacts, Import/Export, and Browse. Find and click on the file you exported, and click on Open and Import Now. To review or edit your address book in Yahoo, click on Address Book in the upper right corner.Respectfully submitted by Garth Peterson, Secretary.

Minutes of Meeting - February 1, 2008

Minutes of the February 1, 2008 meeting of the Sioux Falls Seniors Computer Club:

President Norm Knox called the meeting to order in room 204, and announced that Susan Niemeck would be our speaker, replacing Bev Johnson. Under old business, the club discussed what to do with the club's laptop computer. Bill Goebel reported that he has done software cleanup work on it, and it also now has new power cord. The club decided that the computer will reside in a locker at the Center when no member has it checked out, that Norm will keep the key to the locker, and that a member who currently has the laptop checked out on the day of a meeting should bring it to the meeting. Norm will put instructions for borrowers with the laptop. Norm lives close to the Center and is often at the Center itself during the day.

The minutes of the January meeting were approved after being viewed in hard copy.

In the computer classroom Bill introduced Susan Niemeck, who gave the club a first look at Windows Vista. Susan started with the sign-on procedure. One PC with Vista can have multiple users. Visitors, such as grandchildren, can have their own user-IDs without changing the rest of the system. Different users can have their own desktops, with choices of plain or fancy wallpapers. The Vista desktop has some parts that are similar to the XP desktop, but some parts and new features are quite different. A whole new feature is the sidebar on the right side, which contains new things called gadgets. These gadgets need to remain unchanged on the computers in the classroom, but home users can remove some of them or add to them. Special gadgets are available from software vendors outside Microsoft. New users of Vista may want to leave gadgets alone at first in order to become familiar with features that are not so different from XP.

There are several versions of Vista available, including Home, Home Premium, and Business. Susan has Home Premium. (Norm says the premium version is worth the extra cost.) Computer hardware must match the requirements of the version of Vista. In any case, higher computer power is needed for Vista than for XP. When Susan gets a new version of Windows, she studies its new features not only to understand the changes Microsoft has made, but also to understand why these changes have been made. This is her philosophy for studying new versions of Windows.

The start button in Vista is in the familiar place in the lower left corner, but is now an icon without the word "Start". The start button provides access to recently used programs, and to All Programs. Under All Programs there are folders as before, but as the user navigates through the folders, they do not spread all over the desktop. Instead all folders are opened within the same window. Another change is that folders within folders are shown after programs rather than ahead of them. Individual programs within folders can be started with one click. A brand new feature of the start button is that its display shows an icon that represents the current user. Any action on the computer that affects security brings up a small security warning window. This is useful when a PC accepts remote log-ins, but this window also pops up whenever the User Accounts icon is selected in the Control Panel.

Vista has an improved search facility that can search by context, but this searching requires a fast computer. "My Documents" has been renamed as "Documents" and is also reorganized. Folders for pictures and music and such have been moved out to become folders beside Documents rather than being folders within it. Functions of Microsoft Outlook are now in Vista. These functions are more powerful than Outlook Express. The calendar function of Outlook is a significant new feature. E-mail is now handled by Windows Mail, which is more like mail in Outlook than mail in Outlook Express. "My Computer" is now called "Computer", but it still opens a window to give the usual access to different drives. This window gives a choice of opening a drive with one click on the left side of the window, or with two clicks on the right side. Any programs presently on a older machine should be freshly installed on a Vista machine. Copying program files across from the older machine is not advisable. Data can be brought across by means of export and import. Documents can be written to a CD and copied into a folder on the new machine. All open programs in Vista are shown on the taskbar. Hovering over a button on the taskbar creates a miniature display of the button's window. In the quick launch part of the taskbar there is a button that activates a 3-D display of current windows. This display is radically different from anything in any previous version of Windows and made a strong impression on the club members. It is very demanding of a computer's hardware, and needs the premium version of Vista or higher. Vista needs at least 1 gigabyte of main memory, but 3 gigabytes is a desirable number. The hard drive should provide 250 gigabytes of storage or more. If a printer from an older computer is installed on a Vista machine, it may need a driver. The computer's manufacturer should be able to provide the driver.

The Center for Active Generations will have an introductory course in Vista soon. The first offering of this course will begin on March 18.

Vista needs a new version of Microsoft Word, and does accept a too old version of Office. Office 2003 and Office 2007 will work in Vista, but Office 2000 does not. Microsoft Word has a Save-As option for compatibility with older kinds of formats. Older formats may be needed in e-mail attachments for recipients who have older computers. It is now possible to get a CD that installs Vista on a computer that is currently running Windows XP, provided the computer hardware is suitable for Vista. Before any installation of a new system, back up all data. When you put in the Vista CD and run the install program, you will have a choice of installing Vista over XP, or creating a new partition on the hard drive so that it will contain both XP and Vista. Information about Vista can be found in books at Barnes and Noble or in the very good help screens that come with Vista. Click on the start button and then on Help and Support to get to the help in Vista.

The club welcomes new members Don H. Platt, Patricia A. Powell, and Tom VandenBosch.

Respectfully submitted by Garth Peterson, Secretary

Minutes of Meeting - 4 January 2008

Minutes of the January 4, 2008 meeting of the Sioux Falls Seniors Computer Club as submitted by Garth Peterson, Secretary:

President Norm Knox called the meeting to order in room 204. Because of a scheduling limitation, all of the meeting was conducted in room 204. The minutes of the December meeting were approved after being viewed in hard copy. Vice President Bill Goebel reported that the club's laptop computer was unusable because of a missing power cord. This laptop was paid for by club dues collected in the past, and had previously provided reliable service. Bill proposed that the laptop should be kept by a club member rather than in the front office. A motion to this effect was approved by the members. Another motion, also approved, designated Bill as the club member in charge of the laptop computer.

Bill answered an e-mail question about YouTube. Access to YouTube does not need Google. However,access faster than dial-up is necessary. YouTube can be accessed directly at its Web site http://www.youtube.com/, subject to an easy registration requirement. A YouTube presentation via e-mail does not need registration. Special software for YouTube is not required.

There was also a question about sending an e-mail attachment to a group of people. A group name in Outlook Express can be used to send e-mail to a group of recipients, and this will work with an attachment. However, some computer users are reluctant to open attachments because of the fear of viruses. Bill described how to overrule a pop-up blocker, in case a pop-up blocker is preventing pictures from being seen.

A picture in e-mail may be saved by right-clicking on it and then clicking on Save As. Outlook Express can re-size pictures in outgoing e-mail. A picture can be resized by putting it into Word and resizing it there.

Bill then discussed important parts of the Windows XP Control Panel, using a borrowed laptop computer. The club was fortunate and is grateful that Mildred Hottmann Roesch brought her laptop to the meeting and made it available. During his discussion, Bill referred to the Classic View of the Control Panel. He skipped over certain parts of the control panel that have limited interest to most computer users, and these parts are omitted below. Different versions of Windows have differences in their control panels. The option Add New Hardware in the Control panel can be used when adding new hardware to a computer, but Bill said that the wizard supplied by the manufacturer of new hardware will usually serve the same purpose. Add or Remove Programs is a very important part of the Control Panel that all computer users need to know how to use. The window under this item is the place to go to remove a program from a computer. Generally, any program that one does not recognize should be left in place. To carry out a removal select a program and click the Remove button. This will usually give complete removal of a program. If it does not, it may be necessary to go to My Computer to finish up. If you are unsure how well the removal process will go, it can help to create a restore point just before starting the removal. It is not wise to depend on a restore point that is several days old because going back to a restore point means losing e-mails and possibly other important information that was received since the restore point was made. Bill recommends leaving the Automatic Updates option on. Date and Time icon lets the user choose a time zone for a computer's display of time. Display Properties can be changed by clicking on Display in the Control Panel or by right-clicking in an empty area of the desktop, followed by clicking on Properties. Some programs may need a change in the resolution of the display. This is also the place where you can turn off your screen saver while running Disk Defragmenter. File types can be changed to allow new file types to be recognized in attachments. These come under the Folder Options icon. Fonts can removed in some cases to save disk space,but this may interfere with the operation of some programs. Internet Options in the Control Panel will take you to the same menu that is found in Internet Explorer under Tools. Keyboard changes are permitted to vary the way the keyboard works, but it is advisable to make a note of all the old settings before making any changes here. Mouse options are available like options for the keyboard, and again you should make note of the old settings before changing anything. Network Connections can let you see how your computer connects to the Internet, and there is a wizard here for making new network connections, but your Internet service provider should provide you with a disk for making a new connection. Power Options in the Control Panel provide ways to put various things in a computer on standby after various periods of idle time, but Bill feels it may be simpler to leave these alone. It is desirable for a laptop to give a low battery warning. Some keyboards have keys to bring a computer up or down or put it on standby. Printers and Faxes will take you to the list of print requests, where stalled print requests can be removed if necessary. This is the place to select your default printer. Older PCs may have old unused printers listed here. These can be removed here. Scanner and Cameras icon leads to a wizard for adding devices, but programs with these devices will also do this. Scheduled Tasks can let you run the defragmenter on a schedule, or you can have a quick disk cleanup run whenever there is a reboot. Task to be run automatically can be tied to clock times or run at reboot. Security Center controls the firewall that comes with Windows XP. This firewall needs to be turned off if a computer has another firewall included with software from a security provider. Security options under this Control Panel item include the firewall and anti-virus protection. Sounds and Audio Devices icon leads to the window for sound volume adjustments. There is also an icon at the lower right corner of the desktop to get to these same adjustments. System on the Control Panel leads to very technical adjustments. Among other things, the system restore capability can be turned off here. User Accounts icon lets different users of a PC have their own desktops while using the same programs on the hard drive. Bill feels that this feature is not all that effective.

The Sioux Falls Seniors Computer Club welcomes new members Linda Bauer, Ladean Klein, and Kris Rauscher.

Respectfully submitted by Garth Peterson, Secretary.

Minutes of Meeting - 7 December 2007

Minutes of the December 7, 2007 meeting of the Sioux Falls Seniors Computer Club, as submitted by Garth Peterson, Secretary:

Because of a scheduling conflict, President Norm Knox called the meeting to order in the computer classroom. The minutes of the November meeting were read and approved. Under old business, the club reviewed the Web address of the Club's weblog. This address is: http://sfscc2007.blogspot.com/

Vice President Bill Goebel took the podium to answer computer questions and to discuss "Doing Google Searches". If a custom arrangement of desktop icons is desired, it is first necessary to right-click on a open space on the desktop. Then click on "Arrange Icons", and if "Auto Arrange" has a check mark, click on it to uncheck it. After that the icons can be moved as needed.

It is possible to choose between normal computer operation and safemode by pressing F8 repeatedly right after beginning a reboot. Pressing F8 repeatedly brings up a small menu that gives a choice of Normal or Safe Mode. This procedure may be able to correct a situation where a computer boots up in safe mode when it should not. On the other hand, booting up in safe mode may sometimes be helpful. Anti-virus software may detect some virus in safe mode that it cannot detect otherwise. The programs Checkdisk and Defrag may work better in safe mode. The most important difference between safe mode and normal operation is that safe mode disables non-essential hardware devices.

The club discussed whether computers should be off or on at night. Some favor turning them off at night, but Midco recommends leaving them on continuously. Computers that remain on continuously should be rebooted occasionally.

A router is a device that can let multiple computers share a hardware device or share a single fast connection to the Internet. Router problems can sometimes be cleared by turning a router off and back on. Networks connect different computers together. The Internet is an example of a computer network. Local networks connect computers that are close together without going through the Internet.

To see what version of Internet Explorer you have, click on Help and then click on About Internet Explorer. Internet Explorer Version 7 has a box in the upper left corner that makes searching more convenient. When Google is the default search engine for this box, search words for Google can keyed into the box without the user's having to visit Google's home page first. Other search engines can be chosen as the default in place of Google or used in place of Google without being the default.

To make a desktop shortcut to a Web page, bring up the page in Internet Explorer, click on File, click on Send, and finally click on Shortcut to Desktop. When a user misspells words in a Google search, Google will guess at the intended words and correct the spellings. Clicking on the button marked "I'm feeling lucky" gives only one search result, but has the benefit of giving more information sooner about the result.To search for a phrase, enclose it in quotes. To exclude results that contain unwanted words or phrases, put a minus sign before the unwanted word or phrase. (When a phrase is to be excluded, put the minus sign before the lefthand quote mark.) More complicated options for searching are available in Google's cheatsheet. To find the cheatsheet, let Google search for the word cheatsheet.

At this point, Nellie Reeves mentioned several examples of Googlesearchs from a class in Google. Besides searching for words and phrases, Google can search for images and maps, and can give search results within other particular categories of information, such as news. Clicking on Preferences on Google's home page lets the user specify personal preferences for searching.

Google can act as a reverse phone book for numbers that are publicly listed in phone books. Just enter a phone number with area code in Google's search box.

A feature called Google Earth presents maps of the world with interesting sites marked. The user can find out more about these marked sites by clicking on their points in a map. This feature of Google needs fast Internet access.

Internet Explorer keeps a history of recently visited Web pages. This history can be seen by clicking on the button with a down arrow at the right end of the address box. Sometimes it is desirable to remove the history. To clear it, click Tools, Delete Browsing History..., Delete history..., Yes, and Close. Or click Tools,Internet Options, Delete..., Delete history..., Yes, and Close.

The Center is preparing for Windows Vista. Part of the preparationwill be a class or classes in Windows Vista especially for instructors and coaches. Instructors and coaches should inquire about this training. The Computer Club welcomes new member Joran Olson.

Respectfully submitted by Garth Peterson, Secretary.
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Notes: Google has its own history of searches. To remove this history,follow the same procedure as above, except that instead of clicking on Delete history..., you should click on Delete forms... . If you specify preferences in Google, they are saved in a cookie. Deleting cookies (similar to history and forms) will remove them. Internet Explorer Version 6 does not keep track of Google searches or other entries into forms, but is able to delete history and cookies under Tools and Internet Options. The steps are slightly different from Version 7.

The club's weblog address can also be entered as http://www.sfscc2007.blogspot.com/ Whether the string www. is required, optional, or forbidden at the left end of a Web address depends on decisions made by the operator of the Web site in question.

The Startup Menu that shows Normal and Safe Mode during bootup (whenF8 is pressed repeatedly) has some other choices, but Normal and Safe Mode are the only choices that have much usefulness. Windows 98 has this to say about safe mode: "This special diagnostic mode of Windows enables you to fix the problem that is keeping you from starting Windows normally. The problem could be caused by your network or hardware settings. Make sure these settings are correct in Control Panel, and then try starting Windows again. For more information, see the Troubleshooting section in Help. While in safe mode, some of your devices may not be available."

Minutes of Meetings - 2 November 2007

Minutes of November 2, 2007 meeting as submitted by Garth Peterson, Secretary.

In the absence of President Norm Knox, Vice President Bill Goebel called the meeting to order in room 204. The minutes of the October meeting were read and approved. The club discussed possibities for future meetings, including other search engines, specialized searches, and genealogical searches in particular.

Bill read and discussed an e-mail with several questions about associations of programs with extensions, the use of control-A, and whether there is e-mail that cannot be forwarded.In the computer classroom, Bill showed how to change or add programs that go with an extension, and Glenn Johnson showed the members the new blog which he created for the club. This blog uses a free service of Google and is on the Internet at http://sfscc2007.blogspot.com/ Club members will need to establish free accounts at Google in order to add comments to this blog. Notes: Anyone can create a free Google account at https://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount. An example of how Google should not be used can be seen at http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/uc/20071016/lfmc071017.gif

Submitted by: Garth Peterson, Computer Club Secretary
November 17, 2007 10:02 PM